Try to tell me Obamacare is lawful.
Obama care is a sign of a country that has lost freedom.
I’m a better fit to be a Supreme Court Judge, a congressmen, senator or president than what we have.
It’s amazing how distorted peoples minds have become. In a free country where we instituted a government to protect our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness people are thinking it is okay for the government to force you to get health insurance. These same people think anyone who opposes it is just being mean and hates Obama. Simple things for simple minds I guess.
I think now would be a good time to look at the definition of the word Liberty. I think people have been conditioned to gloss over key phrases in our countries founding documents and they gather no meaning from them.
“noun, plural lib·er·ties.
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
From the Declaration of Independence
“unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men”
Liberty is mentioned as a right and Liberty means freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
Let’s look up the definition of arbitrary
noun, plural ar·bi·trar·ies.
1. subject to individual will or judgment without restriction; contingent solely upon one’s discretion: an arbitrary decision.
2. decided by a judge or arbiter rather than by a law or statute.
3. having unlimited power; uncontrolled or unrestricted by law; despotic; tyrannical: an arbitrary government.
So lets plug the definitions in a part of the document responsible for people deciding to fight the king.
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty (freedom from arbitrary(subject to individual will or judgment without restriction; contingent solely upon one’s discretion: an arbitrary decision, decided by a judge or arbiter rather than by a law or statute, having unlimited power; uncontrolled or unrestricted by law; despotic; tyrannical: an arbitrary government) or despotic government or control, freedom from external or foreign rule; independence, freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice) and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men
To make it more readable I will eliminate some of the definitions as they are redundant.
We instituted a government to protect your/our right to Liberty which is freedom from arbitrary government or control, freedom from foreign rule, freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions and to have the power or right of doing, thinking, and speaking.
Okay, so please explain to me how the government we have can take a portion of my income and how it can make me buy health insurance or be fined, taxed or made to pay a penalty? It seems that is the very reason we instituted a government, to protect me from something that wanted that sort of control over my life. This is like the fictional movies where the machines we create take over. The government we created to keep us in control of our life has taken over and is now in control.
I have had some conversations about this over the last few days, as usual no one seems to be able to address the things I bring up.
Here are some of the things they counter with.
It doesn’t infringe upon your rights.
Someday you will need major work from the medical system, what will you do? or you will need this new treatment that cost $150,000.
Is it so bad for a free society to have access to affordable health care?
It will not be criminalized and there will be no guns.
There were more but they really didn’t offer up anything else. As I hear more and dispute them I will add them.
Let’s take them one at a time.
“It doesn’t infringe upon your rights.”
This one is probably the mother load of them all. I think this stems from them not having a clue what a right is or what it was to our founding fathers. As I mentioned above we set up a government to protect my right to be in control of my life. Forcing me to get health insurance is taking the control from me in several ways. It is spending my money against my will and it is forcing me to get into contract with a private business. These Acts alone warrant us to institute a government to protect our rights. We obviously don’t have one that does that.
“Someday you will need major work from the medical system, what will you do?”
First off I question things when the word need is used. Need it, what for? Some would say you’d die without it. First it is hard to even say that, there are other options that could cause me to stil live. Secondly, if the care does work did it give me immortality? No, it didn’t. Oh, so I may still die tomorrow, next week, or many years later? So it prolonged the inevitable, death. How can you say it was needed then, you still will die. Even if it did provide immortality then one should ask the question if that is the best thing anyhow before one could say it was needed. I choose to live free from fear. To say I need health insurance and should jump through hoops and give up liberty (or force others too) so that if something goes wrong this current medical system can attempt to prolong it that seems a bit queer. Seems like one is wasting the current time with a false hope of immortality. But anyways, people should be free to choose, there is no absolutes here, so to enact a law and force one to get health insurance in this current western medical system reminds of someone in a religious cult telling you to do this and that or be damned. Like there are not options, choices, etc…. You NEED this, you need to be forced to buy insurance because you need the care this medical system has because you need to What? and What? That’s just it I guess.. I need to for what reason again? I need to because you have a bunch of belief’s mixed with fear in your head? I have a bunch of belief’s in my head, but the difference is I’m not forcing them on you.
You will need this treatment that cost $150,000.
I have to wonder how I could possible NEED something that has only been around 50 years yet humans for over thousands of years. How did we ever get this far with all these things we NEED yet they didn’t exist 50 years ago? Sounds like snake oil salesmen. Seriously, another sign something is up, another sign that is present when someone is trying to deceive you or are themselves deceived.
“Is it so bad for a free society to have access to affordable health care?”
This one I really like. It assumes, implies, leaves so much out and attempts to corner one into a corner that any thinking person can see doesn’t exist.
So let me rant about it. It assumes that to everyone everything in the bill must be great and honky dory and any opposition to it must be because you think it is bad for someone to have access to affordable health care and the only way that is possible is with this bill. That statement above should have clued me into how the rest of the conversation would go. No where. It it a sign of someone who is so focused on something they can’t see and are unaware of the many, many other options.
The intelligent question to that concern should be, How come care isn’t affordable? When I look into it I find that it isn’t affordable because of government rules and regulations, insurance companies, lawsuits and fear instilled into those in the industry.
“It will not be criminalized and there will be no guns.”
Well, I may have to look into this one more and we may just have to wait and see. But they say you must buy insurance or be penalized or pay a fine and it either then is considered a tax or it can’t be a tax but it is going through the IRS somehow. If you don’t pay the fine, tax, penalty or whatever they are calling it to make this illegal thing legal in their criminal system but they aren’t going to enforce it? Yeah, I had someone tell me that. Sounds like a major waste of time if is has been put in the Act and went up to the supreme court about forcing you to get insurance or be fined yet you can ignore all that and life will be hunky dory. I don’t know, that somehow reminds of times in the past when someone has swallowed some pill or a bunch of BS.
Here is a vid I thought was pretty good.
Liberty Defined, Doug Stanhope.